This is the first WIP-communication-board. WIP means World-Improvement-Project. I am the moderator of the WIP-communication board and my name is Jean-Pol Martin. I'm professor for didactics at the catholic university of Eichstätt-Ingolstadt in Germany. My English is very pitiful, but we have to speak and write in English, if we want to reach other populations than just Germans.
The WIP has worked for 24 years, as I used to let my pupils teach each others (Learning by teaching, in German LdL), see: www.ldl.de. So the little world in my school-classroom has been improved.
The next step has taken place since five years, as I have asked my students at the university not to wait on my suggestions and topics, but to choice a interesting topic themselves, to build a team, to plan a research, to carry out that research and to publish the results of their research in an internet-site (see: www.projektkompetenz.de). So the little world in my university-classroom has been improved.
The next step is more ambitious. I want to improve the world in my school-classroom, in my university-classroom and now outside the school and the university.
Step by step we have built a broad and bright online-community, with very smart students, and I think, inside that community there is a high "world-improving-potential"!
Now I want to test that potential: I'll fligh to New York (because I hope to trigger a high public attention with that town) and focuse my activities on one (modest) world-improving-point with the support of the community.
The community has to give me a task (for instance: "Go to the Brooklyn university and find some students who are willing to work with us at the WIP")
The community has to find people in New York, who helps me to realize my tasks.
But we have to think about the point, if New York is the best place to realize that project.

Conditions for participation:
People, who wants to work with me, have to be
- reliable
- positive (they have to consider their glas as half-full and not half-empty!)

By the way:

Of course, there is no university in Brooklynn. It was just an example, because I didn't want to say Columbia university... :-)))

The last New York Experiment, 3 years ago:

And the article (2002):

Hi!
I`m a student at the university of Passau in Germany.
At the moment I take part in the course “Internet and Project-Competence” from Mr Jean-Pol Martin and I can tell you that it`s great and really interesting! I`m a member of the group that deal the subject “Four towns, four countries, four business lifes?” that we have choosed ourselves and we want to find out how people react to the problems concerning the economic crisis in different towns and countries.
I`m looking forward to the new idea of Mr Martin to fly to New York and to realize a project there with the intention to improve the world. Our support is very important and I already contacted a friend of mine who lives in Chicago. I hope she can help us to find some persons who are living in New York so that we have some contacts.

@ jpm
I already hit on an idea of a task for you but I have to think about it over night! :-)

@Frauke
OK. I'm looking forward for the task! (You know: as I said in a former contribution on that communication-board: my English is pitiful, but I'm trying to improve it...:)))

@Everybody
To understand the theoretical project-background it is useful to read that article (of course, the idea is just one hypothesis of many, but my main conception is building synergies and surching for available resources):

@jpm

well, well, well... here we go again. :-)

I'm really looking forward to this project. :-)
I have a first question: what should be different this time around - in comparison to the first NYC project?

@ JPM

Your idea sounds realy interesting. The article about your last NYC-project was the most interesting of all articles you gave us.
At the beginning of this discussion you asked, if NYC is the pest place for this projekt. I think the big advantage is, that there live so many different people, that there must be anybody who is interested in your project and helps you and surely there is somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who lives in NYC (as Frauke tried to make some connections about her friend in Chicago).
But wouldn´t it be a bigger challenge to go to a city, that is not so popular, not so big and where you have nerver been before...? Because in my opinion then you are realy dependent from the community and other people around you.

@Kerstin
you are prefectly right!
If it has to be the US, then a town in the midst of nowhere would also be great. Like Flint. This is Michael Moore's (see "Bowling for Columbine") hometown. Have you heard about it?

This project sounds interesting. So I will sign up the board and follow the discussion and whenever I have something to contribute I will contribute. But not yet because I don't have any knowledge about small cities in the USA (ok, I also know Flint because of Mr. Moore's activities). And perhaps I can refresh my poor english...

Hi, I'm a colleague of JPM's and ready to observe another of his very interesting WIP projects and willing to assist wherever I can.

@ JPM:

If you want to stay in NYC (or another city) you may want to stay in a youth hostel, where it is more likely to meet people from various cultural backgrounds. I'll give you the address of the NYC youth hostel where a friend of mine had some interesting cross-cultural experiences as soon as possible.

Joachim Grzega

Hi all together!

I think a travel to New York would be only a repetition of the first NY project. I thought you want to have a real challenge. Neither NY nor Cicago or any small town in USA is that really. Port o Prince would be a real challenge these days ;-) but we want that you will come home save again. Without joking I would suggest, that you should travel to Moskow, Tokio, Johannisburg or another Capital. I should be a bigger city (because it is for us audience more interesting), it should be a save contry with electricity ;-) and it should be somewhere you you can be comprehensed (to make it not so easy, it might be an not english/ german/ french as mothertounge speaking county).
I hope I didn´t provoced you that way that you choose an real challence like Haiti, Iraq or Afganistan...

Hi,
I also think NYC is too easy for you.
I could help you with either St. Petersburg or Cleveland, Ohio.

Hi!

I am an assistant of Prof. Martin, and I´m in charge of building websites and supporting the ipk-course of Prof. Martin wherever needed.

@ all

No, I disagree. Perhaps it is far more exciting to see R. Messmer climb Mt. Everest than to watch somebody having his weekly bath in a wellness-club. But could that be a reason to send jpm into the desert (or do you want kind of reality-soap? ;-)?

In fact, even if e.g. NY
- is well known
- has an excellent (?) infrastructure
- internet-cafes erverywhere ;-)
etc., so that in terms of orientation (where do I find things/places, what should I visit, where to sleep and so on) you would not expect any surprises (or cathastrophies ...), in terms of Human Rights etc. the "cognitive map" is rather blank, I expect. To go and fill **this** gap - to get to know to relevant people, act as a missinoanry for IPK/LdL and raise funds ;-)) - could be a very exciting experience and would be of more importance than to just get to know another town ...

To go to St. Petersburg, Johannisburg or even Port o Prince in my opinion would be more like the first NY-trip than to enter a infrastrcturally well known area an dive deeper into realy interesting topics.

One remark at the end: maybe it would help for the discussion, if we´d firstly concentrate on the goal of the whole mission?

I have just got the idea, it could be very interesting to go to Cyprus.
It is not a very important part oft the world, but after the 1st of May it will be also member of EU. After decades of apartheid and a wall between north and west side. I would learn how people communicate whith each other. In an European state the ways and nets of communication must be built out. Few month before I travelled with an Austrian man living since 20 years in Larnaca an having a cyprus-turkish wife. He belived absolutely in the turkish version of the Story of Cyprus.
Was it possibile to find or build a little net of communication between the two parts?

@all together
Today I made a LdL-Teacher-Training in a very beautyful school (Schloss Neubeuren) near Rosenheim. I enjoyed it very much and I told about the WIP. My colleagues were enthusiastic: to improve the world is an interesting target. Anyway: an the moment I don't have much time to answer your suggestions on that board - because I have to go downstairs to dinner with my family. But I think, that Mr.Agricola described the aim of my project very well.
In addition: today I buyd my ticket for the fly. It's to late to change the destination, If I wished to do that... But New York is the right place for that project. You have to find some people who help me to promote the LdL/IPK-ideas, mainly in the schools and universities...

@ Urs and all

"it should be a save contry with electricity ;-)"

A propos: Read this article of my favourite quotations website ;-)) about New York's energy problems:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,288657,00.html

I'm not sure, if jpm will have electricity at all...;-))

@Kerstin
"But wouldn´t it be a bigger challenge to go to a city, that is not so popular, not so big and where you have nerver been before...? Because in my opinion then you are realy dependent from the community and other people around you."
- My target is very different from the first New York Trip. This time I don't want to test, if I can live alone in a hard twon with the help from an oline-community, but test how much potentials the online-community has three years later. I think, this community is able to plan and carry out a very ambitious project, like Mr.Agricola describes. I want to make publicity for the IPK-World-Improvement-Project and find people who want to work with us. And the students have to plan that project: find a room for me, where I can stay from 10.04 to 15.04., find people I can meet, find schools and universities where I can speake... (That's my idea, but perhaps somebody has a better one).

@all together
I think, the target must be following:
We trye to persuade people to work with us by our attempt to "improve the world". That means, that we explain our contacts that we are making a net with young people (that's important, because young people are very interested to "save" the world: I mean climate problems, migrations problems and so on). I will trye do find contacts in New York (with the help from the online-community), I hope some students can do that in Istanbul too, and everybody who works in the IPK can explain the contacts in Spain, Georgy (=Georgien?), Hungary (?), Italy, Monaco what we are doing. So we can expand the WIP-net very quick...
But you know: there are just suggestions! :-)))))

I think, in the future IPK-students should construct their homepages in English. If we want to show the student-sites in New York or in other foreign countries, people will not understand the contents if they are in German!

<lang:en>

- Georgien: 'Georgia' or 'Georgian Republic'
- you are dependent 'on' or depend 'on' sth.
- you work with sb. 'on' sth.

</lang:en>

Many thanks for correcting my English. The problem I see, is that my English is so bad (yes, yes, I know that! :-)) that the whole communication board will be used to correct my mistakes. Perhaps it will be better, if you use the "transnational correction board":

@Claudius

Sure, I´ve heard about Flint (also see his first film, sorry I don´t remember the name yet).
But as JPM mentioned, it´s too late for other cities.

@everybody
Ok, LPM will go to NYC. Where will we send him? I think, universities and so on are too boring and not very interesting. To improver the world you have to start at the base (send him to Harlem to write a world-improving song with some gangster-rappers ;-) *joke*).
By the way, what do you think about to contact some media to make the project more popular? we could reach many people by the help of the media (by the way I wrote for our local newspaper, that could be a first adress).

@Hr. Agricola
Sure we don´t want to make a reality soap out of that but a little bit spice attracts more people from outside and make people to stay at the project.

@ Kerstin

"a little bit spice" - right!


@everybody

Instead of producing kind of "Jean-Pol hat euch liehieb ...!" ;-)) involving the media is an idea I like. Imagine JPM giving an Interview on CNN an beeing watched by his colleagues in Eichstaett ...

We should try to find out, who does LdL or ipk-like courses in the US (I think we might not know, because they don´t worry about what´s going on in EU/Germany)!

@Claudius, Urs, Kathrin
"I have a first question: what should be different this time around - in comparison to the first NYC project?"
- Please read my answer to Kerstin (21:14).
@J.Grzega
" I'll give you the address of the NYC youth hostel where a friend of mine had some interesting cross-cultural experiences as soon as possible."
- Well... You don't think, it's possible to rest by private persons? A colleague for instance?

OhOh, I hope the nice little transnational board won‘t get flooded with corrections for you, jpm :-)

A teacher in Rochester, NY
daniel dunne at Monroe Middle School
ddunne@rochester.rr.com

might be a first school contact
I talked to him last year when he visited Germany, he‘s got a lot og Hispanic and black kids, so probably he will be interested in new, world-improving methods.

@Kathrin
Great! Perhaps he will be the first contact I have in New York!

@ jpm
Between 04.10 and 15. you had to see, who is not on holiday on Easter Saturday, Sunday and Monday or is ready to spend it with you. It could be a very good criterium for your job in NYC.

@akos
Thank you for the advice!

@jpm

remember the NYC Guide?

Here is the link:

http://www.nyc-guide.de

@Claudius
Yes, I didn't forget the NYC Guide! Thank you!

I've just read an interesting article on spiegel-online http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,288894,00.html
about some websites, that bring people with equal interests together in real (not virtual!). So I looked at the site www.meetup.com and found a topic called "online education" (http://www.meetup.com/browse/education/) and found out, that people meet up every second thursday in month (??) in several cities all over the world (even NYC and MUC) to discuss on this topic. Before meeting you can do a suggestion about the agenda. And you can even vote for your preferred location.
I don't really understood the whole procedure and I don't have the time to have a deeper look at it, but I think it could be one way to find people who are interested in your research.

@Gunnar
Absolute! That's a very good idea!!! I'll deeper look at it myselve and try to set up connections...

@jpm

The link below leads to a list of possible universitarian partners. I'll check out some of the websites myself and then return for feedback. Maybe there is a possibility to contact one or two people there...

@Gunnar & Claudius
My problem is following:
At the moment I have to perform 5 very challenging projects simultaneously:
- 1. Leistungskurs Französisch 12 Klasse with 19 students: the most important for me. For instance all the students appear next friday with me on the "Tagung der Vereinigung der Französischlehrer" and deal with the audience (50 teachers) about the topic "Schüler für Geistesgeschichte und Literatur begeistern"
2. I'm touring in Bavarian and presenting two or three times in a week the method LdL in the Modus-21-Schulen. Important and very exhausting.
3. I'm following the activities in the IPK an have to support if required. Important and at the moment not very exhausting, but during the semester extremely tiring.
4. I'm preparing and advertising the new project "Tutorenschulung" in the university of Eichstätt. Very important to find some financial ressources.
5. And eventually I'm performing the "WIP-New York" experience.
So it would be helpful regarding the New York project, if a crew (project-manager) organize the reduction of complexity for me. If I try to read the very interesting communication on the forum Gunnar mentions, I will be exhausted very soon. The same problem is regarding Claudius' proposition. Who can reduce this complexity and set up a programm for me like this?
Mr.Martin New York Programm:
1. On april 10 you spend the night in the flat from Paul Auster.
2. On april 11 you are meeting Koffie Annan and explain the aims of WIP. You spend the night in the house of Paul Auster in Brooklyn again.
3. On april 12 you meet the Black-Power leader in the Bronx and compare your values-system with his one. In the evening you meet some human-rights fighters... And so on...:-)))
Of course, it's difficult and a high challenge...
But it's a game too... :-)))
If that task is too difficult or not interesting enough, no matter: I'll carry out my project anyway! :-)))

@Claudius & Gunnar
I have read again the pages you linked and I think, that is a good point of departure! I'll think about mor intensively during the week-end.

@Gunnar
Allmählich habe ich den Eindruck, dass ich voran komme. Hier in den von Ihnen empfohlenen Seiten:

Sorry, I have forgotten to write in English...:-)))

@ jpm
"Sorry, I have forgotten to write in English...:-)))"
No problem, I understand you as well ;-))

referred to your contribution at 17:13:
Of course I see your problem, but remember mine: Although I only have one project it is a quite voluminous one called "Diplomarbeit" and it goes on until beginning of april, so I can't do any further than give you some information that I get by chance.

@Gunnar
Yes, I undestand very well your problem! :-)))
I prefer mine! :-)))
Your informations are much useful in any case! Thank you for further support my project!

Hi JPM
I am sitting in a fine flat in a place called Montebelluna near Venice and am really very happy to see that you are still thinking about Paul Auster and would like to spend a night at his house! So it is not just his looks after all
;-)) (remember you told me last time in NYC, that you thought I liked him just because of that?)By the way his wife writes fantastic books as well - her name is Siri Hulstvedt. So maybe you have got more luck with her!
Did you try the contact I gave you? I think it is best to get into contact with New Yorkers instead of looking for more links here. They will be able to tell you how to find other interested people and how to finsome more direct connections.

@Kathrin
I think about Paul Auster, because I had read his books intensively during and after my New York tripp, but you remember: I didn't like the pessimistic general mood in his works. :-)))
"Did you try the contact I gave you? I think it is best to get into contact with New Yorkers instead of looking for more links here."
- No, I didn't, because the past week was very heavy going (=stressig?). As you perhaps remember, the bavarian ministry for education gave me the chance to present LdL in the "Modus-21-Schulen". That 37 bavarian schools have been choiced to trie new ways in organisation and teaching. And now I'm travelling through Bavarian and every week I have to present LdL in two or three bavarian schools. But this week-end I will try to contact the colleague you give me the eMail-adress.
I thank you very much for the continuously support. I think in such a project like "WIP New York" continuously support is the most important success-factor.

@Kathrin
Now I wrote a mail to your colleague. I hope, he can help me...

@Kathrin
Do you remember, the last time a colleague said to me I have to go in a school. Here his contribution:
"Brausepauls Sympathisant antwortete am 17.04.01 (12:12):
Lieber JPM,
ich schreibe deutsch, da mein Englisch noch schlechter ist als Ihres (mit Verlaub). Ich sympathisiere etwas mit Brausepaul, bin aber nicht identisch mit ihm. Schade, dass sich der Traeger dieses interessanten Pseudonyms aus der Diskussion zurueckgezogen hat. Ihr Level 4 (postmodernism) scheint mir in der Tat fuer die (im Grunde doch banalen, wenn auch vielleicht für Sie persoenlich jetzt gerade sehr aufregenden) Dinge, die Sie in NYC erleben (blisters, bagels and co.), etwas an den Haaren herbeigezogen zu sein. Im Klartext: Vielleicht machen Sie doch aus einer (zugegeben sehr interessanten) Muecke einen gigantischen Elefanten. Um den Kontakt zu Ihrem eigentlichen Profil (als LdL-Gruender: so kenne ich Sie durch das Internet und durch Vortraege) und zu Iher eigentlichen Existenz (Sie sind doch wohl ein unteilbares Individuum, auch wenn Sie sich gerne zum Traeger fremder Identitaeten und zum emotionalen Container stilisieren) nicht ganz abreißen zu lassen, möchte ich Ihnen, falls es Ihre verbleibende Zeit in NYC noch zulaesst, eine kleine Aufgabe stellen:
Suchen Sie den Kontakt zu einem amerikanischen Lehrer, besser noch zu Schuelern, und informieren Sie sich ueber deren Aengste und Sorgen, den Unterrichtsstil, Probleme, Schueleraktivitaet etc. Am besten, Sie besuchen sogar eine Unterrichtsstunde (vielleicht Englisch)! (ich weiß natuerlich nicht, ob nicht auch in NYC gerade Osterferien sind).
Viel Spaß bei diesem Projekt!
Im Uebrigen finde ich es toll, wie Sie sich durchschlagen (ohne Ironie).
Brausepauls Sympathisant"

Hier das Forum (im Archiv):

@jpm

just a short question, to show that I am still reading the forum and am still a source of continious support. :-)

do we need a website for the "JPM again in NYC" project? do you want me to do it?

@Claudius
Thank you for your proposition! At the moment Mr.Agricola and me are achieving a comprehensive plan including all the homepages, so it will be better, if Mr.Agricola keeps the New York Sites in his hand too. But in the future, if our plan can be realized, we will be glad for your help!

In any case I'm searching for a cheap hotel. Here is one:

@jpm

the hotel looks good! it will surely be an excellent experience for you to live there, even if it is for a couple of days. :-)

@Claudius
Yes, but I should perhaps take a better one, if I have to face problems in NY and need a comfortable place to relax.

Now I have booked a hotel (YMCA), not very expansive, but probably without stress. It would be possible to booke some dormitory with 7 other people, but I think I'm definitely to old for such jokes and I have booked a single room... Here the hotel:

@kd
Did you see the "Paul Auster Discussion Board"? First I thougt your are the initiator from that board! :-)))

@jpm
What do you think about a day in Chicago by Prof. Csikszentmihalyi:
(His current interests include the study of creativity, especially in art; socialization; the evolution of social and cultural systems; and the study of intrinsically rewarding behavior in work and play settings, all being connected by a conceptual approach based on systems theory.)
with presenting IPK to him and discussion coming to this forum...
http://www.ccp.uchicago.edu/faculty/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi/html/
("Miska" in his e-mail adress is a nick name :-))

@jpm
would you like to meet Paul Auster?
Well on the 11 March, you could do this...
The link below provides more information.
Unfortunately you would have to drive to Albany, the capital of New York State... but it is not very far... and it might be worth it!

@Claudius
Thank you for the precious tip. The problem is: 11 march is in two days! :-)))
Greetings!

@jpm
here is something you could do on the 13th March.

It is an event where Budd Schulberg will be interviewed by Robert Armin. Check out Google for both names.

The event might be an interesting place to meet people and talk about certain WIP-topics.

@Akos
I just stay 6 days in NY, and Chicago is quite far away from NY!

@jpm
the link below provides more information on Bud Schulberg.

@Claudius
My trip ist from 10 April to 15 April! :-))

@jpm
and one more interesting event:

if you cannot go to Albany for the Paul Auster event, here is something else. (see link below)

@jpm

how long will you be staying in NYC? If you are still in town on Monday, the 15th, you could go and see Woody Allen's Jazz band. (see link below)

@jpm
oops... April?... well then I'll have to find some other great events... :-)

here's a new list of possible events:

Monday, 12 April:
- go and see Woody Allen's Band at "The Carlyle"

Task: try to get to know some people and discuss the value of jazz music today. :-)


Tuesday 13th April 2004
-Paul Auster will attend an event publicising 'Collected Poems' at 6.30pm at Borders, Park Avenue, (461 Park Avenue, New York City, New York. Phone: 212 980 6785).

Task: go there and try to talk to Paul!


Wednesday 14th April 2004
- Paul Auster is continuing his 'Collected Poems' tour at the Mercantile Library, New York at 6pm. It's free to members of the library, Poets House, seniors and students and $5 for all others. Reservations are required. Call 212 755 6710.

Task: try this date, if you could not go the the one the day before. ƒº By the way¡K READ his collected poems and try to figure out whether they suit the the ideas from his previous work.

OR

Wednesday 14th April 2004
- go to the following Dicussion Event :
¨Susan Jacoby - Freethinkers: A Celebration of America's Embattled Secularist Heritage¡¨
(link: http://www.nypl.org/research/calendar/eventdesc.cfm?id=768)
Task: get to know as many people as possible. :-)

For more information on possible events see link below (http://www.nypl.org/research/calendar/plist.cfm)

@Claudius
Thanks a lot. This time, I would be very glad, if the online-community manage appointments for me. Could you manage an appointment. The question I will ask if I meet some interesting person - for instance an executive in the UN - will be: "I'm professor for pedagogics in Germany and my students and me are trying to improve the world. Could you tell us, what we have to do in order to improve the world?" Now the task for the students by my project is to find some contacts for me in NY. Could you find some contact for me, Claudius?

@ jpm

Just now I'm organizing your meeting with Kofie Annan (or maybe it will be a meeting with Gunter Pleuger, but that's ok anyway, isn't it?)... ;-))
But don't blame me if it won't work!!
(It's gonna be a hard job for me anyway...)

@Gunnar
That's fine! I knew, you will help me in my difficult situation. Could you tell me the shedule for meeting the persons (Annan, Pleuger or Angela Kane)?

Here's my little idea:
I remember a school colleague who made (Abitur) with me (baaaad english!) and who ist now working in NYC.
Last year at the 10th anniversary (Abitur)-party she was there but I didn't talk with her. But I remember my colleagues saying, that she's working for UN or maybe for the german embassy at the UN (that's why I mentioned Mr. Pleuger).
The Problem is: I neither know her position nor her adresses or telephone numbers and the promised adresslist of all my ex-colleagues never reached me (perhaps it vanished because of alcohol-misuse?? ;-))
But right now I'm investigating these things by asking other colleagues.
Maybe I get out nothing but I try...

@ Gunnar

That's a promising track - keep going!

@jpm:
a friend of my family is professor for american literature at the university of albany, n.y.state. maybe she can help you with paul auster (for she might see him tomorrow night:-) or arrange another interesting meeting in nyc.... - just wrote her an email and let you know as soon as she answers.

@jpm
unfortunately, I don't know anyone in NYC. Just someone in Los Angeles... :-(
So I am probably only going to provide you with information on possible events that you could attend.

@dr. agricola

cool! the website is already up and running!
I like the itinerary ont the right. now I'm more motivated to find possible events for jpm.

dear jpm and dr. agricola

wouldn't it be interesting to know who has given you the tasks mentioned in the website?!

just a proposal ...

best wishes

@jpm
a big cultural influence on the US is been attributed to sitcoms. the link below leads to a website where you can order free tickets for the tapings of a bunch of sitcoms. most of them are being produced in NY.
we cannot yet order tickets for the week you are going to be in new york. but next week, we should definitely try to get you some.
:-)

@all together
yesterday afternoon I was away from my computer (Modus-21-Schulen-Fortbildungen) and now I'm finding a lot of interesting support-contributions:

"Gunnar antwortete am 10.03.04 (10:50):
(...)But I remember my colleagues saying, that she's working for UN or maybe for the german embassy at the UN (that's why I mentioned Mr. Pleuger). (...) But right now I'm investigating these things by asking other colleagues.
Maybe I get out nothing but I try..."
- Great!!! I'm looking forward to meet her!
--------------------------------
kathi antwortete am 10.03.04 (11:30):
"(...) a friend of my family is professor for american literature at the university of albany, n.y.state. maybe she can help you with paul auster (for she might see him tomorrow night:-) or arrange another interesting meeting in nyc.... - just wrote her an email and let you know as soon as she answers."
- I'm impatiently waiting!
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Claudius antwortete am 10.03.04 (12:17):
"(..) So I am probably only going to provide you with information on possible events that you could attend."
- It's a support too! :-)))
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Sonja + Franziska antwortete am 10.03.04 (14:43):
"(...)wouldn't it be interesting to know who has given you the tasks mentioned in the website?!"
- You mean Claudius Konrad?
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Claudius antwortete am 10.03.04 (15:14):
"(...) we cannot yet order tickets for the week you are going to be in new york. but next week, we should definitely try to get you some. :-)
- OK. But it seems that you don't wont me following my personal target to improve our world, asking some experts like executives from UN how it could work... Don't you agree wiht me, that it would be interesting asking such persons what we have to do for improve behavior in our country in education for instance...?

@jpm
personally, I don't think you are going to meet anyone from the UN. at least no one "important".
and then, I think there is more going wrong in the US, than it is in Germany. so imporving the world today should start there. and what better way is there to start doing so but by speaking to common people on the street. especially this year when there is an presidential election coming up.
so, my task for you would rather be: "go to the US, speak to as many people as you can, and try to see what they think about the way politics have changed in the last couple of years."

@Claudius
"so, my task for you would rather be: "go to the US, speak to as many people as you can, and try to see what they think about the way politics have changed in the last couple of years."
- I understand. I just fear that people on the street arn't very interested in talking with a 61 old, broken English speaking man. For that task a young attractive girl or boy would be more suitable. I think I have to exhaust my specific resources (professor asking some international executives in order to find out good targets for the IPK-students). Which skills students have to develop in order to manage the future world? That's my question. But perhaps youre right: at the end I will follow the way you advise me to go.

@jpm
that's why going to special events is probably more useful. just speaking to people on the streets won't work either. :-)

@Claudius
Now I have got a track that could get me further: a IPK-student gaves me several addresses from parents who live in USA, especially in New York and would help me finding some wellknown personalities. Now I have to formulate a mail about the topics I want to deal with my contacts. You remember my idea: I want to build a big network in order to think about the problems we have to face in our countries, in Europe and - mor difficult - in the world. The network ist growing step by step in Germany and now I want to expand that in an other part of the western world. So young people from Germany and young people from USA could think mutual about their (our) problems.
What should I write in my mail regarding the aims from a meeting with a wellknown personality?

@ jpm

Ich hab Ihre mail mal weitergeleitet an Leute, die vielleicht einen Ansprechpartner in New York kennen könnten.
Aber wieso versuchen Sie es nicht so, wie wir es im letzten Jahr mit Istanbul gemacht haben? Per Internet könnte man sicher Namen von Ansprechpartnern z.B. der UN finden. Leider habe ich dazu momentan keine Zeit.

Viele Grüße,
Katharina

@Katharina
Ich teste nicht aus, inwiefern ich in der Lage bin, per Internet Leute ausfindig zu machen, sondern inwiefern das Unterstützungspotenzial der LdL/IPK-online-community innerhalb der drei letzten Jahre - also seit meinem letzten New York Experiment - angewachsen ist. Theoretisch müsste ich mit Unterstützung der seit drei Jahren allein zahlenmäßig sehr stark angewachsenen Commmunity viel mehr Kontakte in New York bekommen, als es beim ersten Mal der Fall war... Vorausgesetzt, das Projekt motiviert die Leute genug, um mir Kontakte zu verschaffen. Immerhin hat mir nun eine IPK-Teilnehmerin eine ganze Reihe von vielversprechenden Kontatkpersonen aus ihrer Familie angeboten. Insofern sehe ich meine Hypothese ansatzweise verifiziert. Aber bis dahin kann noch viel passieren...

I spoked with Dr.Agricola who gave me the right advice (I had the same idea) to focuse the topic on "improving the world" through education. So I'll try to meet students and colleagues who are working in the same direction like us. For exemple Dr.Agricola founds a university offering a course like IPK (building collectively homepages about specifical topics). So we should try to contact this colleagues. Of course I will use all the tipps that participants gaves on that board about universities or tipps about persons who can helpf me in New York (for instance the persons who Johanna Weis gaves me the name and eMail-Adresses).

@Claudius
As you see, I'm still thinking about that NY-project. Step by step the targets becoms clear. I will try doing both: I will meet some colleagues doing similary projects like IPK or LdL and interested to collaborate and I will try to fullfill your tasks, going to the events you propose me. In addition, I want to meet every persons who students could contact to get an date with me. So a lot of persons could take a little part in that "JPM in NY again"-project. I think, that's the best design for my objectives.

@jpm
your plan ALREADY sounds great! :-)

@Claudius
Thank you for the friendly encouragement. But it would be comforting for me if I already had contacts in NY. At the moment I have to fight a little! :-)))

@Claudius
I've read your tasks again and I promise I will try to achieve them!
Today, you know, I'm really on the ball (=gut drauf sein) because yesterday my LK (17 students) and me were in Erlangen on the French-teacher-congress and it was a big, big, big success! Perhaps the greatest success we ever had. Michaela Sedlmeier was chief-executive, we had 63 French-teachers in the audience (we had a little room, so people had to stay outside) and they were very enthusiastic. So up from now I'm able to stand up a new failure-serial without damage! Let's go further! :-)))

Step by step! :-)))) A Mail from Istanbul! :-))) A big suprise for me! :-)))
""Lieber Herr Martin,
(...) Ihr neuestes Projekt (New York) finde ich faszinierend. (...) Ich unterrichte derzeit unter anderem eine zehnte Klasse mit 25 türkischen Schülern, die seit 2 1/2 Jahren Englischunterricht haben.(...) Die Schüler arbeiten in Kleingruppen. Jede Gruppe denkt sich einen Auftrag für Sie aus, der zunächst mit mir abgesprochen wird, wobei ich anfangs durchaus Impulse gebe (z.B. ein Gesprächstermin mit dem New Yorker Bürgermeister arrangieren, Fragen vorbereiten zum Thema Weltverbesserung, die Sie dem Bürgermeister dann stellen werden, aber auch praktische Details: wie kommt JPM vom Hotel zum Bürgermeister? (Taxi, Metro? Kosten? etc.) (...)"

@jpm
Wow! That is amazing! Great news!

absolutely!!
Currently, I'm setting up connections with the English Department here in Reims, but sofar without any "real" success. But maybe...

@all together
Currently the NY-project ist working well: Shiu wen gaves me a lot of contacts with students in NY... Tomorrow the turkish students will contribute on that board...
Wow!

@all together
I want to sum up the very exciting state of my NY-project:
Design:
- 25 Turkish students from Istanbul are thinking about questions to ask people who live in New York. The topic is: how to improve the world.
- The messenger ist a German (French born) didactics professor living in Germany (Eichstätt) who will spend five days in New York (10.04 to 15.04) and meet people in order to ask the questions from the Turkish students.
- Shiu Wen, a student from Taiwan studying in Germany has contacted friends in New York. The German professor will meet that friends and ask the questions from the Turkish students.
The communication has to be very quick: the professor will report at least twice a day in the internet (communication-board) about his activities.
Of course, the professor will achieve a lot of other targets, like doing what an other community-participant (Claudius Konrad) advices, like meeting Paul Auster or other interesting tasks! :-)))

By the way: today policemen and -women from Slovenian are visiting my lesson in the school (Leistungskurs Französisch) in order to observe how my teaching-method LdL (learning by teaching) works. They want to use that method in the policemen-training in Slovenian.

This sounds like a very interesting development of the project. Unfortunately my ex-colleague doesn't answer, so I neither have any adresses nor information yet.
But in 9 years, when we'll meet at the 20th Abitur-anniversary I'll tell him about the enormous world improving result by this project, so he will be sorry that he didn't take part! :-))
But I'm still hoping for an answer...

wow! policemen-training with LdL in Slovenian and New York-Project with help from Istanbul! IPK is very international! I am glad and proud to be part of it : )
I am also thinking of questions which could be intergrated into the questionnaire. Maybe we should go through the questions from Istanbul first so that we could be kind of 'inspired' from them?
Mr. Martin: have you got the questions already?

@jpm Dear Mr.Martin Jean-Pol
We are Koray Saracoglu,Eren Kirali and Gokhan Ozvardar from Deutsche Schule Istanbul and going to 10-B.Before giving you tasks we want to know your physical condition.Because there will be some tasks which you should use your physical performance.

@jpm

Dear Prof. Jean-Pol Martin,

Today we were informed about you and your projects by our English teacher Mr.Reischle. We are three girls going to 10B class in Deutsche Schule Istanbul. We would like to join your projects in order to help you choosing the places to visit and things to do which will also make you have fun. We would be very pleased to recieve information about your interests.

Thank you
Cansu KARAYAZI- Ceren TARHANLI- Denisse GUR

@jpm
Dear Prof. Jean-Pol Martin,
We heard about your trip to New york which you will make next month.What we want from you is to inform us on which subjects you need help from us.
We will be glad if we can help you.

@JPM
I'm Sinan and here with my friends Koray and Koraycan from Turkey,Istanbul. We are in the same class and we will help you to find your way in NY City. We are going to German High School and our school is in Beyoglu, which is a historical place of Istanbul.For now we can just send you the name list of our class(10b). Here is the list:
Name Age Gender
-Mehmet Yildirim 17 m
-Gökhan Ozvardar 17 m
-Irmak Akyil 17 f
-Omca Bas 17 f
-Nur Cebi 17 f
-Candan Cirnaz 17 f
-Eren Kirali 17 m
-Koray Saracoglu 17 m
-Elif Nur Aydin 19 f
-Pelin Özeren 17 f
-Koray Köse 17 m
-Sinan Ugurdag 17 m
-Koraycan Canut 17 m
-Gökhan Söyler 17 m
-Baris Müstecaplioglu 17 m
-Ahmet Emre Ucan 18 m
-Cansu Karayazi 17 f
-Alp Özger 17 m
-Mert Ok 17 m
-Ceren Tarhanli 17 f
-Deniz Gür 18 f
-Emil Cücülayef 17 m
-Onur Özbalci 18 m
-Sedatcan Ar 17 m
-Umut Emre Ertan 17 m

@jpm

dear jpm,

we're the students from the german high school istanbul.we want to help you by giving some informations about new york.So our teacher mr.Reischle divided the class into groups and our group must have infomations about your trip(what kind of a trip are you thinking of?-cultural,for fun or somethingelse-)So we can help you!..

sedat,candan,nur(group pirates)

@jpm
Mr. Martin;
We are glad that we are going to help you. We are really interested in your project. It will be an interesting experience for us and help us improve our English. Thank you for letting work with you in this project.

@jpm Hi! We are students from Turkey and have some questions about the financial part of the journey
How much cash will you be spending everyday ?
Can you say the maximum and the minimum limits ?

@JPM
I'm Sinan and here with my friends Koray and Koraycan from Turkey,Istanbul. We are in the same class and we will help you to find your way in NY City. We are going to German High School and our school is in Beyoglu, which is a historical place of Istanbul.For now we can just send you the name list of our class(10b). Here is the list:
Name Age Gender
-Mehmet Yildirim 17 m
-Gökhan Ozvardar 17 m
-Irmak Akyil 17 f
-Omca Bas 17 f
-Nur Cebi 17 f
-Candan Cirnaz 17 f
-Eren Kirali 17 m
-Koray Saracoglu 17 m
-Elif Nur Aydin 19 f
-Pelin Özeren 17 f
-Koray Köse 17 m
-Sinan Ugurdag 17 m
-Koraycan Canut 17 m
-Gökhan Söyler 17 m
-Baris Müstecaplioglu 17 m
-Ahmet Emre Ucan 18 m
-Cansu Karayazi 17 f
-Alp Özger 17 m
-Mert Ok 17 m
-Ceren Tarhanli 17 f
-Deniz Gür 18 f
-Emil Cücülayef 17 m
-Onur Özbalci 18 m
-Sedatcan Ar 17 m
-Umut Emre Ertan 17 m

@Istanbul students
Thank you very much for the postings. My intention is to ask questions to professors and students I will meet in New York. The topic is: we want to improve the world. Of course, its sounds a little bit ironical, but I thin you have surely suggestions to achieve that target (improving the world). So I meet some chinese students studying in New York and I ask the questions or suggestions you are setting up for me.
Perhaps the topic is complicated, isn't it?

@jpm Hi! We are students from Turkey and have some questions about the financial part of the journey
How much cash will you be spending everyday ?
Can you say the maximum and the minimum limits ?

@Sinan
Oh yes, I know Istanbul a little bit. I was in the hotel Richmond 3 years ago...

@jpm

We are Alp and Mert from the German Highschool of Istanbul.Mr Martin we want warn you about the problems that you might have in NYC. First problem is finding a place to stay.I think you should book a room in a hotel before you go to NYC.You should get some information about the busses or subway schedules.

@Baris, Ahmet and Gokhan
I don't want mainly chose touristic targets but I want to be a messenger betwenn you (Istanbul students) and New York students regarding the question how to improve the world! :-)))

@jpm
Hello Mr. Martin
we are Pelin, Elif and Mehmet.We thought something for you'll have good time in New York. We chose you Habitat Hotel which is in Manhattan. The rates begin from 75$. We think the price is suitable.If you want to get from one part of the city to the next, you have to use one of the many tunnels, bridges or ferries.You can visit to Empire State Building and look down at the night over the city.You can also visit Battery Park and from there you can go by ferry Staten Island. There you can see Statue of Liberty in New York Harbour. There is a another ýsland that you can also visit. It's called Ellis Island that was often called the Isle of Tears. All immigrants who came to New York as third class passengers were sent to the island where they questioned and examined. Today it is a museum. You can visit to Greenwich Villiage. There are street musician, cafes.
For now we can find these information. Later we'll send you more things.

@Alp & Mert
Thanks a lot: my hotel is a very cheap one (YMCA).
Your job is formulating questions I want to ask people in the school, in the university and perhaps on the street. Than I go to the internet cafe and tell you, what answer I get on your questions...
If possible, I'll try to talk with the NYC-mayor. But you have to manage a appointement for me with the mayor! :-)))

@jpm
Yes I know the hotel too. It is a very popular hotel in Istanbul. :-)

@jpm

We are Alp and Mert from the German Highschool of Istanbul.Mr Martin we want warn you about the problems that you might have in NYC. First problem is finding a place to stay.I think you should book a room in a hotel before you go to NYC.You should get some information about the busses or subway schedules.

@jpm

you forgot to write us

@pelin. elif and mehmet
Thank you very much. Three years ago I was in Habitat hotel. It was quite good! Now I spend the nights in the YMCA. Could you suggest me questions to ask the people in New York regarding the improvement of the world? :-)))

@group pirates
You didn't write anything...

@Alp & Mert
You know, I already was in NY three years ago. Now my target is to be a messenger for your questions or bettre your suggestions to people in New York.

@all together
My hypothesis is, that if Turkish students think together with NY-students, German students and Taiwan students about the world problems, perhaps we could achieve better solutions than if each student thinks alone about the problems. That's why I'm trying building an online-community with you and other students.

@Hsiu-wen
"wow! policemen-training with LdL in Slovenian and New York-Project with help from Istanbul! IPK is very international! I am glad and proud to be part of it : )"
- Great! :-)))
"I am also thinking of questions which could be intergrated into the questionnaire. Maybe we should go through the questions from Istanbul first so that we could be kind of 'inspired' from them?"
- Currently we are trying to find a design motivating the students in Istanbul and simultaneously satisfying for us. That will take a little bit of time...
"Mr. Martin: have you got the questions already?"
- No, I don't.

to all of you:
yes I approve of the suggestion from jpm:'if Turkish students think together with NY-students, German students and Taiwan students about the world problems, perhaps we could achieve better solutions than if each student thinks alone about the problems.'
Perhaps we should think together how we would design the questionnaire. Should we think of some main topics at first? For example: 'terrorism', 'cultural missunderstanding', or 'human right' etc.? Then we could design questions under the main topics.
or it would also interesting, if we just let people answer the question: 'how can we improve the world?' and let them just say what they want. It would be then more like an interview.
These are just my suggestions. Let's start thinking!

@Hsiu-Wen
Your suggestions are wonderful. I need some project-manager for the NY-project. Would you like to do that job? You just have to organize the discussion on that board, helping people to find a good topic, motivating the participants and helping to find some contacts...
It's a very intersting job I think, and a good qualification for the world of tomorrow!

@group pirates
Sorry, now I seen your contribution. Thanks a lot. I think, in my contributions I now already answer your questions...

yes I'd be glad to be one of the managers for the project.
Have you found any other managers yet? I have to cooperate with them, of course. Maybe we could ask Gunnar to be another one?

@Hsiu-wen
As you now know (we met in my office three hours ago) currently you are the only project-manager (together with the Turkish students, but they seems to interact just one time a week - I think...).

The board is full, I transfer them in the archives and open a new one.